obviously there is still a very low interest rate environment. previous guest alluded to what i think is a bond bubble that's kind of formed. and it's really synthetically engineered by the central banks keeping rates what would be artificially low. so as long as banks can come to the window for almost free money, they can do a carry trade and rebalance themselves and shore p up their balance sheets over time. >> do you look into next year and start to see a better atmosphere for equity performance? we were just talking with brian reynolds earlier about strong fundamentals for credit. that about on the equity side? >> well, i'm very concerned about it because we seem to have a difficulty really getting global growth together. there has been signs particularly in the latter half of the year that there has been a globalized slowdown. and i worry about it in relative terms to the fiscal cliff. what bothers me about our situation and the situation in europe is that the political forces and the structure of these repairs take a long time, they misdead